Moonlight Episode Discussion - Ep 9: Fleur de Lis

Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby allegrita » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:35 am

My question is, did the script say that, or did Alex flub the line, but it worked so well they left it in? :laugh:
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby nutmegger911 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:45 am

Doesn't one of our members collect original scripts from the show?
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby Luxe de Luxe » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:10 am

wpgrace wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:What are your thoughts on Josef's knowledge of Coraline? Do you think there IS a reason other than wrong place, wrong time as to Beth being chosen? And if so, does Josef know what it is? And is he hiding it from Beth? Or from Mick?


SUCH good questions!

Josef made a point of telling Mick... in The Ringer... that he knew Cora for a hundred years longer than Mick did... so he knows Coraline well, and clearly knows alot more than he's telling Beth... I gotta imagine that at the point where we meet Mick and Josef tho, that Josef has shared pretty much what he knows about Cora with Mick himself. They have clearly had talks about her before. And Josef clearly thinks that Mick is well-rid of Coraline.

However, and this is cheating cause it's in future eps, but I think Josef knows a lot about Coraline's FAMILY that he hasn't shared with Mick... such as the existence of Lance.

And I agree with Alle... the writers were clearly at one point headed in the direction that Cora and Beth share a blood type. But that doesn't mean that JOSEF knows that. He hasn't tasted Beth and they made clear that vamps could NOT tell blood type just from being around a person... they actually (a la Simone) had to taste the blood. So he may truly believe that Beth's abduction was purely luck of the draw...

wow.... such an interesting discussion, I know we've moved on to another section but I just had to comment....
I think Beth was definitely chosen for a reason, I think it definitely does have something to do with Beth and Coraline sharing the same blood type... and hmm... their blood type is pretty rare... blood types tend to run in families though .... I suspect that Beth, Coraline and Lance are all part of the same bloodline.
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby news » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:41 pm

lafluffy wrote:Just happened to see this thread.

What I loved about this ep was Beth's primal rage throughout. She's psychically reliving the trauma of confinement and encounter with Coraline and the events surrounding that. In reliving it there are parts of her that are acting as if she were still that child, a huge motivating factor. Her powerful grown self breaks the spindle of the chair inside the actual prison. And then as that raging child...


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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby GuardianAngel » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:29 pm

M&M head to Haggans' office to warn him. They are met by his assistant who says he's not there and isn't at liberty to say where he is.

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Mick has no patience and lifts the guy in in the air by his collar.

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Morgan looks a little nervous. (huh) Haggans left two minutes ago. With his son. Uh oh.

They've got to catch up. Mick tells Morgan to take the elevator - he goes for the stairs and flies down the center to the bottom (cool!)

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Outside father and son are walking out. The son says the wife is waiting in the car for them. They have a surprise.

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Mick is their surprise! He comes walking out of the steam (and doesn't he look awesome!).

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He walks up and slugs Jr.

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Dad grabs Mick. WTF? Mick explains that wife and son have been cheating behind his back and planned to murder him.

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He's disbelieving. But wife revs up the car and means to plow him down. But she's off track and almost hits a stunned Morgan.

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Who is saved in just the nick of time by Mick who swoops her up and out of the way. Mrs. Haggans hits water barrels.

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M&M are on the ground, she lying on top of him. She acts surprised and Mick delivers a truly painful line.

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Then the cops are there. The bad boy and girl are in separate cop cars. Mick explains to the detective what happened.

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Mick tells him about the assistant who was also in on it. The cop wants to know if there is evidence. Yup. Audio and visual. They are going to need the photographs. They turn to Morgan but she's not paying attention, lost in thought. Mick has to call her name, get her attention.

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She apologizes - says she's never been almost killed. (another zinger).

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Mick stares at her and looks absolutely edible. I've always thought this shot should grace a romantic novel cover.

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Mick asks if the cop has everything he needs and is told 'yes' and to go home and get cleaned up. He leads a still dazed Morgan away.

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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby francis » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:55 pm

That scene with Morgan being almost killed made no sense to me, but was visually stunning. If the wife wanted to kill the husband, did she plan to drive him over with the car? And did she decide to take a sverve now at Mick, Owen and her husband and get rid of them all? How did they plan on getting away with that?
Or maybe she tried to rescue Owen by giving him an escape with the car, and is a really bad driver. No, that makes no sense either.
But Mick and Morgan looked both absolutely edible, and Morgan was so shaken up and Mick was so in his Knight in shining armor routine. Delicious.

And can someone tell me what the term "Jordan had air" means? I have no idea.
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby librarian_7 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:35 pm

It's a reference to basketball player Michael Jordan's vertical leap...or "air" between him and the floor.

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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby francis » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:40 pm

Thank you, Lucky. :hearts:
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby mwj01 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:48 pm

francis wrote:And can someone tell me what the term "Jordan had air" means? I have no idea.

It's a reference to the great NBA basketball player Michael Jordan and his ability to jump so high when making a shot. Nike developed a line of sneakers called "Air Jordan" inspired by him.

ETA: Oops, Lucky beat me to it. ;)
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby redwinter101 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:57 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:Mick stares at her and looks absolutely edible. I've always thought this shot should grace a romantic novel cover.

Mmmm yes, it seem so from the file name in your PB, sweetie. :whistle:

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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby GuardianAngel » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:03 pm

redwinter101 wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:Mick stares at her and looks absolutely edible. I've always thought this shot should grace a romantic novel cover.

Mmmm yes, it seem so from the file name in your PB, sweetie. :whistle:

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:gasp: I forgot about that. Shhhh! That will be between us, Red. :blushing:

WARNING: If you go to copy and save this picture of Mick looking at Morgan, the file name is explicit.


Morgan's shock and surprise confused me though. I guess she was just keeping in character because none of this should have surprised her. But they both did look really good in this scene.
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby mwj01 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:14 pm

If she was going to keep the Morgan charade going she'd have to show surprise at his mad vertical leap skills. :snicker: Or maybe her surprised look was because he'd just 'outed' himself.
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby GuardianAngel » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:20 pm

mwj01 wrote:If she was going to keep the Morgan charade going she'd have to show surprise at his mad vertical leap skills. :snicker: Or maybe her surprised look was because he'd just 'outed' himself.


True. But not only that scene. It was also her acting all horrified at almost being killed. The near miss. But then again, she hadn't had that happen while being human so maybe it made an impression.
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby mwj01 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:54 pm

Yeah, I think it was the realization that had he not saved her, she would been a goner. She hadn't been that fragile in a looong time.
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Re: Fleur de Lis (Episode Nine)

Postby nutmegger911 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:02 am

GuardianAngel wrote:
redwinter101 wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:Mick stares at her and looks absolutely edible. I've always thought this shot should grace a romantic novel cover.

Mmmm yes, it seem so from the file name in your PB, sweetie. :whistle:

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:gasp: I forgot about that. Shhhh! That will be between us, Red. :blushing:

WARNING: If you go to copy and save this picture of Mick looking at Morgan, the file name is explicit.


Morgan's shock and surprise confused me though. I guess she was just keeping in character because none of this should have surprised her. But they both did look really good in this scene.


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You know I just had to look. :biggrin:
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