Moonlight Vampires -- what did you like/dislike about them?

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Re: Moonlight Vampires -- what did you like/dislike about them?

Postby bluedahlia3 » Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:31 am

I didn't have an issue with the ML freshies. My problem was more with the 'historic' freshies. The old movies and perhaps Dark Shadow (sorry it's been a while) seemed to have the freshies almost catatonic. With our Josef the ladies were ready, willing and able. If anything their senses were enhanced by the vampire presence. :dracula:
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Re: Moonlight Vampires -- what did you like/dislike about them?

Postby jen » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:15 pm

Totally agree, Blue. Yet, that being said. There are examples in nature of predators who exert a type of hypnotic control over their prey.

My personal preference is showing here, as I was never a fan of the old vampires. Too much out of date formalwear, overacting, and the logic-o-meter tending to run a quart from empty.
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Re: Moonlight Vampires -- what did you like/dislike about them?

Postby wollstonecraft61 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:26 pm

Cat, I love this video of the interview so much more than what was on NSTAV. During the interview, when the reporter asked if garlic repelled vampires, Mick said just my dates. That led me to think that they can eat food, although the need to is not there. Also, when he said that "I am undead, not dead" when asked about sex, that got me to thinking. I am in school for medical coding/billing. In our anatomy and physiology classes, sex drive was explained as nature's way of ensuring that the species propagates itself. That led me to wonder why vampires retain the sex drive since they can't procreate. I know, who cares, as long as we get studs like Mick and Josef, right? Still, hmmmm.........

P.S.: Has anyone else experienced problems with the Quote button when using it to highlight what someone said? When I use that button, it won't let me type my message. That's why I had to start a new window to Cat's comment earlier. Just wondering.
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Re: Moonlight Vampires -- what did you like/dislike about them?

Postby Catmoon » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:34 am

wollstonecraft61 wrote:Cat, I love this video of the interview so much more than what was on NSTAV. During the interview, when the reporter asked if garlic repelled vampires, Mick said just my dates. That led me to think that they can eat food, although the need to is not there. Also, when he said that "I am undead, not dead" when asked about sex, that got me to thinking. I am in school for medical coding/billing. In our anatomy and physiology classes, sex drive was explained as nature's way of ensuring that the species propagates itself. That led me to wonder why vampires retain the sex drive since they can't procreate. I know, who cares, as long as we get studs like Mick and Josef, right? Still, hmmmm.........

P.S.: Has anyone else experienced problems with the Quote button when using it to highlight what someone said? When I use that button, it won't let me type my message. That's why I had to start a new window to Cat's comment earlier. Just wondering.


Well, I'm no expert and it's been too long to remember my college classes, but I think the issue is more complicated than that, especially in humans (or vamps). People who are sterile still desire sex, as well as many other cases where there will be no procreating. It's regulated by horomones, isn't it? I guess their hormones still work. Oh, and actually they do procreate, only in their case it's done by turning humans. Maybe that's why sex and feeding seem to be closely connected in vamps. Also, they may be a whole other species, but they used to be human, they didn't evolve totally apart from humans. Just my take on it.

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Re: Moonlight Vampires -- what did you like/dislike about them?

Postby jen » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:03 pm

The 'hormones' point is very interesting. Just a 'what if' (and one that I think was probably discussed before but I'm relatively new to Moonlight) but don't hormones chemically regulate a lot of responses in us--a hormone tells us that we are hungry, another that we are full, aggression, fear, and there is a hormone that is produced in the brain that can cause a person to believe they need a substance to live that isn't naturally needed (addiction). What if some hormones combined when an individual is turned to produce a really nasty hormone that is responsible for the blood lust.

Both Mick and Josef have learned to control the blood lust is slightly different ways, but are essentially doing the same thing--seeking to be the master of it rather than being controlled by it (Josef with his freshies and Mick with the 'nonfat soy vegan' blood that he buys from the morgue).

If that is so, would there be some way to control this hormone medically and thus manage the blood lust.
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Re: Moonlight Vampires -- what did you like/dislike about them?

Postby Josefismysire » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:43 pm

jen wrote:The 'hormones' point is very interesting. Just a 'what if' (and one that I think was probably discussed before but I'm relatively new to Moonlight) but don't hormones chemically regulate a lot of responses in us--a hormone tells us that we are hungry, another that we are full, aggression, fear, and there is a hormone that is produced in the brain that can cause a person to believe they need a substance to live that isn't naturally needed (addiction). What if some hormones combined when an individual is turned to produce a really nasty hormone that is responsible for the blood lust.

Both Mick and Josef have learned to control the blood lust is slightly different ways, but are essentially doing the same thing--seeking to be the master of it rather than being controlled by it (Josef with his freshies and Mick with the 'nonfat soy vegan' blood that he buys from the morgue).

If that is so, would there be some way to control this hormone medically and thus manage the blood lust.


Interesting question, jen!! Sounds like a fanfic in the making... ;)
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Re: Moonlight Vampires -- what did you like/dislike about them?

Postby Kade1301 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:28 pm

One of the things I never got: Why doesn't vampire Mick drink coffee when human Mick loves it? When the taste buds work for alcohol (apparantly vamps don't only drink for the drug effect, but for enjoyment - Single Malt is one of the 11 things that make life worth living and Coralyn has a favourite wine) they should work for coffee, too... And any other liquids, like Josef's "blood-orange juice" (cracks me up every time)

The freezer doesn't make sense to me, and is anybody else worrying what the policemen thought when the searched the apartment (after Lee Jay called them in Episode 2) and discovered there was no bed? I think every vampire should have one. Might also have saved Beth's disappointment after walking up the stairs in B.C. :biggrin:

And why does Mick constantly have a gas fire burning in his apartment if he prefers the cold? Waste of valuable resources, and all that...

I think they overdid it with the jumps - the later ones come pretty close to flying. The climb up the warehouse wall in Ep. 2 was badly executed from the technical point of view, otherwise I'd have found it believable (I believe the original Dracula also had some amazing climbing abilities). The jump up to the ladder in New York was okay as well. But the one on the rooftop after the dinner date? Really...

I don't mind the Moonlight vampires getting burnt up more slowly by sunlight than their predecessors (I forgot most of the Dracula book and never watched Buffy - my basis for comparison are "Interview with a Vampire", "Dracula père et fils" and "Love at First Bite"; the latter two being wonderfully funny parodies) - it just offers more story possibilities (and makes investigations easier). At least they don't glitter in sunlight ;) Though I am wondering why a few hundred vampires would choose to live in L.A. - why not move to somewhere with worse weather?

BTW, in "Love at Firt Bite" Count Dracula says quite clearly that silver bullets kill werewolfes only. But then that's a minor detail and at least they were consistent in silver being bad for vampires. Whereas Mick's abilities constantly change - sometimes he smells vampire visitors on his terrace from down the hall, sometimes he doesn't notice them from outside the door or practically standing next to them (the vamp paparazzi in Click already were in front of the restaurant without Mick showing any reaction). He smells the past - okay, no problem with that (animals can do it) - but glimpsing the future doesn't really work for him. Otherwise he wouldn't have been staked by Lee Jay and would have stepped in between Beth and Coralyn (or was that a - rare - attempt at self-preservation? :teeth: ) And once he can catch up with a speeding car, once he can't...

I liked Mick letting his "inner vampire" out when going for Tejada - but the hesitaion between grabbing Tejada and actually biting him is just so contrived and un-predatorlike...

Just a few of my Moonlight pet peeves...

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PS: Just one more before I get dinner: I'm also slightly worried about the apparantly tons of freshies - how do the vampires make sure that none of them ever talks? I mean, Simone shouldn't be a problem - she probably keeps three secrets before breakfast every day - but what about the girls in Josef house, and at the party in 1982?
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